Group: uk.people.disability
From: "Robert Peffers."
Date: Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: DDA and labels


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> On 15 Jul, 10:12, "Peter V Rawlings"
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>> > On 15 Jul, 01:46, temperance wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:33:25 -0700, "mart2...@ "
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>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On 14 Jul, 09:07, jobo...@ wrote:
>> >> >> Would the Disability Discrimination Act be the route to go to
>> >> >> highlight(!) the difficulty some can have in reading the labels on
>> >> >> jars, tins and packets?
>> >> >> The cooking instructions and contents are often in a typeface too
>> >> >> small to be of use to any but the eagle-eyed and the text and label
>> >> >> background colour can be in awkward combinations - red on black,
>> >> >> green
>> >> >> on red/purple, etc. I've noticed that the space issue can often be
>> >> >> dealt with were the manufacturer to wrap their label *completely*
>> >> >> round the container - the contents of a jar can still be seen
>> >> >> through
>> >> >> its neck.
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>> >> >OK, so what type of label would be of use for someone who has limited
>> >> >sight?
>> >> >Never mind those who go shopping and forget their glasses.
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>> >> >Will everyone be happier with less information on the packet but much
>> >> >larger type? Many items of course only being small packets/tins
>> >> >anyway.
>> >> >The important thing for my family is whether a packet or tin has milk
>> >> >in its ingredients. Others will need to know different things.
>> >> >Is such a change "reasonable"? Or are there products to help people
>> >> >see written labels better?
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>> >> >Martin <><
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>> >> Because of my allergies I couldn't read half the stuff on food. I
>> >> bought the JML magnifier from Woolies and that works very well. I
>> >> really enjoy peeing off the assistants in our local Co-op as they have
>> >> no regard for anybody disabled. The checkouts are dirty the pin
>> >> machine usually has crumbs and food on it and certain members of staff
>> >> think they are well above myself and a couple of other disabilbed
>> >> persons. I usually get up to the checkout and just as they are going
>> >> to swip a product I say "hang on a minute, I haven't checked the
>> >> ingriedients" and get my magnifier out and then read then all out
>> >> aloud. That really is childish on my part but as they treat me like a
>> >> child why shouldn't I have some fun for a change.
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>> > Ummm.....others of us check the ingredients before putting the item in
>> > the trolley.
>> > Most of what the family eats we know the ingredients by now. Some
>> > things are for me only, as I have no food allergies (my allergic
>> > reaction is non-food based).
>> > We always check the label on new items before putting them in the
>> > trolley, but usually thats the only time we check at all.
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>> > Ever thought that the staff will remember who acts like a child and
>> > treat them like a child from then on?
>> > And does your delaying things to read ingredients at the till affect
>> > other people too? Like those waiting in the queue behind?
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>> > Martin <><
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>> Oh, grumpy guts!
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>> If you apply such cause-and-effect illogic, how can many of us DPs
>> justify
>> our incumbence on this planet? :-O
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>> The low-functioning TABs on the tills are just playing low-end power
>> games!
>> Aren't theu lucky! ('temporarily', one might hope! :-/ )
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> I don't attempt to justify my incumbence on this planet. I am simply
> here.
> I've worked retail myself - problem customers who create problems
> where none existed tend to be noticed.
> Including by the customers they are delaying.
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> Still, those who want to give the impression that disabled are
> childish by their own actions are welcome to do so.
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> Martin <><
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While I have to say that I have met very few shop staff who were not very
ready to help and most pleasant to disabled and able bodied alike, there
have been a few who went out of their way to be awkward. However I am self
assured enough to hold my end up against anyone and to put down anyone
stupid enough to attempt to put me down. It has to be known, though, that
many disabled people lack that, or are too timid to even attempt to assert
themselves.
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Robert Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).